tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3401584991689197404.post5166141589485757022..comments2024-03-02T09:41:35.809-08:00Comments on Donkeylicious - A Blog by Neil Sinhababu and Nicholas Beaudrot: The List Within The ListNeil Sinhababuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03249327186653397250noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3401584991689197404.post-78812592795611241682009-11-09T07:36:22.391-08:002009-11-09T07:36:22.391-08:00Along the same lines as ikl, all of those guys on ...Along the same lines as ikl, all of those guys on the list, except Shuler and Peterson, voted for the stimulus bill.<br /><br />So Collin Peterson is looking like the worst of the worst here.low-tech cyclisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05289554457923640296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3401584991689197404.post-19685336757897708272009-11-08T18:29:09.506-08:002009-11-08T18:29:09.506-08:00By the way, Obama only won one of these districts ...By the way, Obama only won one of these districts - Barrow's. And that is not a safe distict in midterm elections (see 2006).iklnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3401584991689197404.post-48292546056693514232009-11-08T14:12:28.326-08:002009-11-08T14:12:28.326-08:00I'm surprised at your anger. It's fairly o...I'm surprised at your anger. It's fairly obvious that Pelosi let the Dems who wanted to vote no do so, as long as she had enough votes. Do you really think Health Care came within 3 votes of not passing the House?<br /><br />Given that most of these Democrats didn't actually imperil HCR or climate change legislation, why the anger?<br /><br />The stupak amendment votes are also horrible. And of course I question the political wisdom of all those Dems who think a yes vote will be a liability. But I guess a No vote isn't a liability.Bluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14667147687700902147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3401584991689197404.post-81776970733004849532009-11-08T12:04:48.879-08:002009-11-08T12:04:48.879-08:00Well, Peterson woud be fine as a backbencher. The...Well, Peterson woud be fine as a backbencher. The real problem is that he has a chair. We are actually lucky that the Republican wave of the 1990s got rid of lots of conservative Dems so that most of the House leadership is pretty good. <br /><br />Holden represents a district that was drawn to redistrict him out of a seat. He won anyway. Can't ask him for too many votes though. And non-Philly Penn is probably one of the leading centers of anti-choice Dems. Honestly, Altmire's vote irritates me more since he is from more of a swing district. Carney gets points for voting "yes" on the final bill given his district.<br /><br />One other factor here is that some of these folks may have been given permission to vote No on the final bill by House leadership once leadership found enough other votes. This is call the "catch and release" strategy. I would hope that Scott Murphy falls into that group. I suspect that Teague does as well as Boucher.<br /><br />Not sure why I wrote "useless" rather than "unless" in the above post.iklnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3401584991689197404.post-58209228604376623662009-11-08T10:13:55.266-08:002009-11-08T10:13:55.266-08:00I am inclined to take ikl's comment in the spi...I am inclined to take ikl's comment in the spirit of "Nancy Pelosi is awesome, she recognizes that she can only get so much out of each Blue Dog and gets just enough."Neil Sinhababuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03249327186653397250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3401584991689197404.post-71394842754839623222009-11-08T10:11:05.845-08:002009-11-08T10:11:05.845-08:00Is there really a reason to give the previous ques...Is there really a reason to give the previous question noes a free pass here? Seems to me that they should be on the shit list too. <br /><br />Collin Peterson, the Agriculture Committee chair who was robber baroning climate change stuff, voted no on previous question and thus isn't on the list. Tim Holden, who would likely replace him if he somehow got taken out, is on the list. This makes Holden seem like a better guy to me than Peterson, even if both are pretty bad. <br /><br />Especially given that Peterson is a chair. Dude, you're leadership. Don't vote no on previous question.Neil Sinhababuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03249327186653397250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3401584991689197404.post-86653297134621849472009-11-08T09:48:04.402-08:002009-11-08T09:48:04.402-08:00Teague voted for the climate change bill despite h...Teague voted for the climate change bill despite having oil and gas interests in his district and facing a really tough reelection battle against the previous US Rep who held his seat (Steve Peirce) who gave up the seat to run for the Senate. He should probably get a pass until 2012.<br /><br />Shuler (who I am really not a fan of) also voted for the climate change bill.<br /><br />So this list is a bit more of a mixed bag than you paint it as. Some of these folks do seem unless, but most of the realy unless ones represent very red districts . . .iklnoreply@blogger.com