tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3401584991689197404.post9070189839874527295..comments2024-03-02T09:41:35.809-08:00Comments on Donkeylicious - A Blog by Neil Sinhababu and Nicholas Beaudrot: The European Project Is Going Exactly As PlannedNeil Sinhababuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03249327186653397250noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3401584991689197404.post-22440629296792611462012-06-08T17:42:12.326-07:002012-06-08T17:42:12.326-07:00When Merkel talks about "ceding responsibilit...When Merkel talks about "ceding responsibilities to Europe", does "Europe" really mean "Germany"? Because that's what the ECB looks like to me -- a supposedly European institution that's actually dominated by anti-inflation German bankers.Neil Sinhababuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03249327186653397250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3401584991689197404.post-76119530287290262172012-06-08T06:47:50.296-07:002012-06-08T06:47:50.296-07:00Also merkel only talks about "ceding responsi...Also merkel only talks about "ceding responsibilities to Europe", which could mean enhancing the democratic legitimacy of the EU, or it could mean centralizing fiscal authority <em>without</em> any attempt to boost the democratic legitimacy of the EU. In other worse, let the ECB and "technocrats" in Brussels conduct fiscal policy for the whole continent.<br /><br />Now, to an extent this anti-Brussels rhetoric sounds a bit like right-wing anti-Washington rhetoric. But at least we elect the SOBs who run Washington and try to oversee the bureaucracy. The EU bureaucratic process makes passing a bill through the House and Senate and then getting an executive branch agency to go through its rulemaking process look like a cake walk, and it's incredibly insulated from any sort of democratic pressure. Say what you want about, but the ability of elected certainly enhances democratic legitimacy, and there is much more direct accountability for economic results than in the EU. (<em>within</em> most European countries, there is better democratic accountability than in the US, since the governments in the EU are largely parliamentary rather than presidential. But the EU institutions themselves are sorely lacking on this score).Nick Beaudrothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02794690208464883973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3401584991689197404.post-88458122920362542032012-06-08T06:19:29.808-07:002012-06-08T06:19:29.808-07:00Talk is cheap.Talk is cheap.Nick Beaudrothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02794690208464883973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3401584991689197404.post-38311569737959001932012-06-07T19:13:32.387-07:002012-06-07T19:13:32.387-07:00On the same day that Nicholas Beaudrot said:
&quo...On the same day that Nicholas Beaudrot said:<br /><br />"No political leaders are willing to take the plunge of suggesting that the response to the crisis ought to be to increase political union and thereby enhance the democratic legitimacy of EU institutions."<br /><br />Angela Merkel said:<br /><br />"We need a political union first and foremost. That means we must, step by step, cede responsibilities to Europe"<br /><br />http://www.heraldsun.com.au/business/merkel-urges-political-union-spain-rating-slashed/story-fn7j19iv-1226388617922Edmund In Tokyohttp://edmundintokyo.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3401584991689197404.post-65138886506751751402012-06-07T12:59:20.756-07:002012-06-07T12:59:20.756-07:00To the contrary, I think EU integration is a good ...To the contrary, I think EU integration is a good idea! But it's been faltering for a while now. Treaty referenda have been hard to pass or have failed several times in the past half-decade. There's the Greece situation. Immigration issues have become a political impediment to EU integration in many of the core countries.<br /><br />One reasons for this is that EU integration is no longer delivering much in the way of rising prosperity for many Europeans. Middle-income native-born residents of France, Germany, etc., have not had a great time of things for the past five years. Periphery nations are being squeezed by a monetary policy by the ECB, of the ECB, and for Frankfurt. So as it becomes harder and harder for many people to see growth, it will be harder and harder for leaders to be elected on the promise of greater integration. No political leaders are willing to take the plunge of suggesting that the response to the crisis ought to be to increase political union and thereby enhance the democratic legitimacy of EU institutions.Nick Beaudrothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02794690208464883973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3401584991689197404.post-88186880784327047212012-06-07T08:54:25.274-07:002012-06-07T08:54:25.274-07:00"Having the ECB engage in tight monetary poli..."Having the ECB engage in tight monetary policy in order to extort periphery nations until they do what Germany wants is perfectly consistent with the aims of many of the original Europhiles."<br /><br />If by "original Europhiles" you mean the likes of Adenauer, Monnet, or Schuman (or even Mitterand and Kohl) you are doing them a grave injustice. It's one thing to denounce current policies of the ECB, it's quite another to slander the whole European project. Then again, vile Europhobia seems to have become the preferred stance of U.S. American elites these days (equally among right-wingers and left-wingers, it appears), so I guess you are just pandering to your base.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3401584991689197404.post-70752159074977613352012-06-07T06:45:38.418-07:002012-06-07T06:45:38.418-07:00Calling the EU integration project ~ that is, the ...Calling the EU integration project ~ that is, the European Union, Eurozone, and European Central Bank ~ an elite driven project is a simple statement of fact.<br /><br />The original European Common Market program was also an elite driven program, but developed at a time when elites were worried that if they did not deliver better results than the Eastern Bloc, they might lose their status as elites.BruceMcFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08502035881761277885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3401584991689197404.post-65228389126132967722012-06-06T19:36:25.953-07:002012-06-06T19:36:25.953-07:00I'm not sure about blaming this on the elites....I'm not sure about blaming this on the elites. I mean, we're getting what we voted for, no? <br /><br />France just picked a Socialist president, but apart from that nearly every country in Europe that has managed to actually elect a government has elected a right-wing one. They believe in balanced budgets and sound money and acting like a national budget is the same as a household budget and standard right-wing things like that.<br /><br />If we all vote in anti-Austerians and they can't shift the direction of the ECB between them then that'll be the time to blame the elites. But right now the voters of Europe are getting what they asked for.Edmund In Tokyohttp://edmundintokyo.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com